Recent Stadiums

[GoSU96]

Open Air Football

Bright House (UCF) 45K seating, $67M, 2007
Rent 40K, $91M, 2003
TCF (UMinn) 51K, $303M, 2009

Basketball/Gen Purpose
Sprint Center (KC) 19k, $296M, 2007
Prudential Center 19.5k, $375M, 2007
KFC Yum 22k, $255M, 2010
Barclay 19K, $1B, 2012

Retractable Roof
Friends Stadium (Stockholm) 50K, $425M, 2012
Stade Pierre Mauroy (France) 50K, $385M, 2012
Lucas Oil, 72K, $720M, 2008
Univ of Phoenix, 63K, $455M, 2006

If this might actually happen IMO to get more bang of the buck and preserve the unique approach and attraction that SU basketball is an enclosed stadium is the only thing that makes sense.

It should attempt to keep the basic layout of the sections to preserve the sight lines and proximity to the field, add individual seats in much, if not all of, the stadium, widen the concourses by 2x.

The tow recent euro stadiums should be looked, right size, right price point to cover both football and basketball. $425 would be about as much as it would cost to build a new 45K open air football stadium and a 20K basketball arena and between the two you would lose capacity for both and an enclosed football and lax facility here in South Canada.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

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Fixed Roof
Vikings Stadium, 65k, $975M (est), 2016.

 

[GoSU96]

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Fixed Roof
Vikings Stadium, 65k, $975M (est), 2016.

There's a reason I didn't add Met Life and Jerry World. There is no need for that type of facility.

It's Syracuse New York. A slightly more utilitarian approach is acceptable.

If a 50K retractable is doable for $450 that would be the thing. But it has to be truly multipurpose.

And if there is some thought to putting the crunch in this building, how do you do that and have lax, minor league hockey stretches into April.

 

[CuseOnly]

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Fixed Roof
Vikings Stadium, 65k, $975M (est), 2016.

I saw the renderings for this stadium and the video, just awesome. The new materials for the clear "glass" roof would be killer if they used the fixed roof concept to replace the bubble roof for the Dome. It apparently is lighter and stronger than any clear material used for a stadium roof in the past.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

And if there is some thought to putting the crunch in this building, how do you do that and have lax, minor league hockey stretches into April.

Can you even have a permanent hockey rink installed in a football stadium with field turf?

I'm thinking that if the Crunch are involved, we may be looking at a Basketball / Hockey / Concert only arena Downtown. MSG or Barclays Lite.

 

[GoSU96]

Can you even have a permanent hockey rink installed in a football stadium with field turf?

I'm thinking that if the Crunch are involved, we may be looking at a Basketball / Hockey / Concert only arena Downtown. MSG or Barclays Lite.

Very light. 17k seats, max.

 

[Full_Rebar]

And if there is some thought to putting the crunch in this building, how do you do that and have lax, minor league hockey stretches into April.

I agree. Not trying to be a negative person here, but the scheduling logistics could become a political nightmare. Not to mention how revenue gets distributed. One of SU's current issues stems from the fact that SU Parking gets the revenue for parking from Dome events. Does it go event by event? Is there a priority to tenants?

No way BFF's Gross and Dolgon are going to willingly move games to Saturday afternoon so the other one can have the prime-time slot.

 

[oldpinepoint]

I agree. Not trying to be a negative person here, but the scheduling logistics could become a political nightmare. Not to mention how revenue gets distributed. One of SU's current issues stems from the fact that SU Parking gets the revenue for parking from Dome events. Does it go event by event? Is there a priority to tenants?

No way BFF's Gross and Dolgon are going to willingly move games to Saturday afternoon so the other one can have the prime-time slot.

my guess is one would have priority over the other.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

The alternative pluralization of stadiums is stadia.

 

[GoSU96]

The alternative pluralization of stadiums is stadia.

Did you enjoy that Cicero?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Did you enjoy that Cicero?

 

[orangeinjersey]

Check out some Replacement Georgia Dome designs, that stadium is newer than ours and all ready getting replaced

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/new-falcons-stadium-renderings/vzmcf/

 

[KellySyracuse]

Check out some Replacement Georgia Dome designs, that stadium is newer than ours and all ready getting replaced

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/new-falcons-stadium-renderings/vzmcf/

wow, both were pretty cool - I kinda liked the first design and how it converts from football to basketball.

 

[Millhouse]

Open Air Football

Bright House (UCF) 45K seating, $67M, 2007
Rent 40K, $91M, 2003
TCF (UMinn) 51K, $303M, 2009

Basketball/Gen Purpose
Sprint Center (KC) 19k, $296M, 2007
Prudential Center 19.5k, $375M, 2007
KFC Yum 22k, $255M, 2010
Barclay 19K, $1B, 2012

Retractable Roof
Friends Stadium (Stockholm) 50K, $425M, 2012
Stade Pierre Mauroy (France) 50K, $385M, 2012
Lucas Oil, 72K, $720M, 2008
Univ of Phoenix, 63K, $455M, 2006

If this might actually happen IMO to get more bang of the buck and preserve the unique approach and attraction that SU basketball is an enclosed stadium is the only thing that makes sense.

It should attempt to keep the basic layout of the sections to preserve the sight lines and proximity to the field, add individual seats in much, if not all of, the stadium, widen the concourses by 2x.

The tow recent euro stadiums should be looked, right size, right price point to cover both football and basketball. $425 would be about as much as it would cost to build a new 45K open air football stadium and a 20K basketball arena and between the two you would lose capacity for both and an enclosed football and lax facility here in South Canada.

does anyone have some good links or videos to how the retractable seating works?

edit - i see that falcons video

lots of stuff in brochures about highly configurable seating but i haven't seen any pictures of how it actually works.

if minor league hockey is anything but a complete afterthought, this could be disastrously bad.

risers that don't really rise (can't see anything), a couple thousand people in a giant building, yuck

i like how basketball and football is configured now.