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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 2204362, member: 668"] That may be appear to be unpromising, however, the harsh reality is it's who we are and have become. 3 straight years our ACC record has proved it, along with still pitching a [I]no-no[/I] when it comes to ACC tournament wins. The documented recruiting struggles and misses (both whom got here and left and those who never donned an SU uni) are significant and the proximate cause of our mediocrity. We can debate the reasons ad nauseam as has been the case, however, whichever argument one chooses to weigh most, the only [I]question of fact[/I] that can't be disputed is our middle of pack ACC position. According to early projections for next season (an 8th place ACC finish) it's just status quo of our identity in the ACC. Sombering for sure, but unfortunately, until our record on the court starts saying otherwise, it's the current reality. [/QUOTE]