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[QUOTE="anomander, post: 5341568, member: 2766"] I can love the program and not be a blind sheep. I'll disagree with things here and there, but the only thing i've ever disagreed with is your weird obsession that recruiting rankings don't matter, and other recruiting and NIL matters others have brought up. If i'm going to be a cheerleader i'll just wait for the season and go to the game with my pom pom's. I didn't know this was a propaganda forum where you can't make honest takes like this recruiting class was a drop off from last year. I don't know how old you are but if any fanbase should realize the importance of recruiting and how rankings equate to on-field performance it's us. From 1987 - 2000 we brought in classes that probably would equate to 20-40 in today's system, some maybe better. Miraculously, Syracuse was consistently a program that hovered in or around the top 25. We also put numerous future all-pro's into the NFL at that time. Since then, well we know what has happened the last 20 years. Is it a coincidence our recruiting fell off and then results on the field? The last 15 years we may have cracked the top 50 once, not counting last season where we had an all-world quarterback (Shockingly a former 5 star recruit). How many draft picks did we see over that time? It's amazing that I actually have to spell it out, but what evidence do you have that recruiting rankings don't correlate with on-field performance? Is it a coincidence the same 10 programs are the only one's fighting for a playoff spot? Other than an outlier here and there, what P4 programs are consistently in or around the top 25 with recruiting classes outside the top 50 year after year. There's an abundance of evidence that show that recruiting classes most definitely matter. The gap will even widen now with SEC/B10 and a couple handful of other programs who can now put together $15-20M rosters full of plug and play replacement transfers. Do you watch college football outside of Syracuse? Again, Fran is one hell of a recruiter, but if he can't consistently bring in the high potential recruits, it's not going to matter. I love the culture he is instilling and the improvement in practice standards, but when it's all said and done, you still need the players. I just don't buy that he's that much better of a talent evaluator than all these other coaches. Even with potentially 5-6 draft picks from last years team and one of the more manageable schedules we've seen and will see, if we didn't have an all-world QB, how many games do you think we win? 7? 6? I'm not complaining about that. He recruited McCord and brought him to Syracuse and I loved every minute of it. I'll say whatever I feel like here, but that won't stop me for cheering just as hard as the most passionate fan come the next game. Again, I just find it strange this stand that you've been on the last 4 staffs where Syracuse is some how getting screwed with their recruiting rankings. Overall, they've unfortunately matched the results on the field. So again, show me your evidence that i'm wrong and there's this grand conspiracy against Syracuse, or even more, in general across college football. [/QUOTE]
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