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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 3101436, member: 40"] Interesting point -- and I think it's because a lot of those guys are projection 4-stars, based upon physical attributes more than football complete skill sets. Morant was a specimen, took him awhile to become a good receiver. Lobdell was another guy with a million dollar body, 10 cent skill set who never manifested. White is similar -- a mammoth stature kid with no technique. Now, based upon reports in practice, I think he'll eventually be good -- but it is going to take him two years to see the field. Meanwhile, good teams get good prospects who are also closer to being finished products. The difference between us and them, currently. And as you point out, we've also had our share of guys with talent [i.e., Collier] who ended up not contributing due to off-field considerations. [/QUOTE]