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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 3044425, member: 837"] You're talking about results. We were never ranked top 25 and generally, from what I remember, finished in the 40s, roughly. But don't forget we were also winning games. How much of those rankings were predictive versus how much of those rankings were reactive based on our winning games is debateable. We are signing kids that are ranked somewhat similar to the kids we were signing under Shaffer, yet our team on the field looks 180-degrees different. That is literally all we need to know. The idea that someone on this board with no inside source on the staff has any clue what type of recruits we are signing is laughable. Both Marrone and Dino have taken a big chunk of another coach's kids and won games. That alone tells you that what you're doing with whatever recruits you're signing is a huge part of the calculus. That's not orange colored glasses, that's the reality of college football. [/QUOTE]