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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 3044496, member: 837"] I think this is a very rationale and well-articulated view. I don't entirely agree with it for reasons I'll state below but this seems far more logical to me than looking at composite star rankings and wringing our hands. We will very rarely do well there. Anyway, I don't claim to know how recruiting is going per se. I have no inside info and I'm not a football coach so my views of the film are that of a fan who doesn't have much better to do. But, having said that, there are a couple things I disagree with. 1. We never have kept big name kids in state. Maybe Mac back in the day but this has been a consistent gripe (one I've often echoed) for at least 25 years, probably closer to 30. It sucks but SU to NY is not Penn State to PA. At least not now or for the past 25ish years. 2. We've had one good season and two solid seasons in the past 18 years. We also have spent several of those years as the laughing stock of P5 programs (or pretty close to it). The Dome blows (I know people hate to hear that but I think that's a prevailing opinion among non-cuse fans) and the game day atmosphere isn't much better. Facilities are OK I guess, but I find it hard to believe they are a selling point over many of our contemporaries. Bottom line is it's going to be hard to recruit at least until we can sustain some winning. 3. More misses could very well be a function of recruiting better kids. I don't feel like we've lost key targets to Tulsa and UConn and Houston so much as we've lost to other really solid programs. That's going to happen at times -- obviously hopefully less as we move forward but it's part of signing higher profile kids. There's more competition. I don't know. I can understand why people are hoping we start crushing it but I think we face an uphill battle at the very least until we can string together some solid success. [/QUOTE]

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