Reflecting on Transfers

l'orange · Jun 29, 2022

Just looking back at some transfers we lost and wondering if they managed to accomplish much after leaving Syracuse. Feel free to add your own transfers to the conversation but I had a few in mind.

TAUREAN THOMPSON

Liked this guy, added offense to a team that needed it. Always wanted him to have more fire and more interest in playing D but I really thought he'd be good for us if he stuck around.

	GP	MIN	FG%	3P%	FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS
2020-21	2	1.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
2019-20	1	4.0	100.0	0.0	66.7	1.0	1.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0	4.0
2018-19	27	10.3	40.3	24.1	73.9	2.3	0.1	0.5	0.3	1.4	0.8	4.6
2016-17 (Cuse)	34	17.9	54.6	18.8	64.5	3.8	0.6	1.0	0.7	2.5	1.3	9.2

MATHEW MOYER

Really wanted this kid to work out for us, seemed to have a great attitude but it never really translated into a strong game.

	GP	MIN	FG%	3P%	FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS
2020-21	12	32.1	50.0	10.0	83.7	9.6	0.8	0.4	0.8	2.4	2.6	10.1
2019-20	25	12.2	29.8	17.2	47.6	2.2	0.2	0.4	0.4	1.8	0.4	2.0
2018-19	30	14.0	34.0	24.5	71.1	3.1	0.6	0.3	0.2	1.6	0.7	3.8
2017-18 (Cuse)	35	16.8	52.9	11.1	53.7	3.4	0.5	0.3	0.4	1.5	0.7	3.2

JALEN CAREY

So much hype and potential not sure what went wrong.

	GP	MIN	FG%	3P%	FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS
2021-2022	24	15.2	43.4	46.7	65.7	1.9	1.2	0.3	0.8	0.8	1.3	5.6
2020-2021	23	16.0	42.7	0.0	57.1	2.7	0.6	0.3	0.4	1.2	1.9	4.3
2019-2020 (Cuse)	2	11.5	12.5	0.0	25.0	3.0	0.5	0.0	0.5	0.5	1.5	1.5
2018-2019 (Cuse)	25	12.2	39.2	17.4	62.5	1.6	1.0	0.2	0.6	0.5	1.6	3.5

RF2044 · Jun 29, 2022

Cool summary -- really interesting to see how each player's respective career unfolded.

Thompson's mom was a loon. She did that kid a massive disservice by steering him to Seton Hall to play for her -- ahem -- boyfriend. He had potential, but ended up having a bust of a career. 3 total games played over his final two years of eligibility -- what a waste.

Where did Matthew Moyer eventually end up on his second transfer? George Washington, I think? If so, he found his level -- 10 ppg / nearly 10 rpg shooting 50% from the floor is pretty solid. Looks like he ended his career on a high note.

What went wrong with Carey IMO is that he couldn't dribble. It was Josh Wright part 2 -- kid had elite speed / athleticism, but couldn't dribble down his chin. Tough to play guard, and especially point guard, when that's the case. Looks like he ended up being a pretty good shooter from three-point range, but didn't do much else. Those assist totals... ugh... and this was a guy who was hand picked by the staff to replace Tyler Ennis. Err... Kaleb Joseph... who also couldn't dribble.

OmahaCuse · Jun 29, 2022

Bigger recent ones were Richmond and Gurrier

pfister1 · Jun 29, 2022

Keith Hughes to Rutgers

Season	Cl	G	GS	Min	FG	FGA	%	FT	FTA	%	3Pt	3PA	%	Asst	Reb	Fls	DQ	TO	ST	BS	Pts	PPG	APG	RPG
1989-90	Jr	35	35	1151	242	543	44.6%	130	193	67.4%	35	105	33.3%	17	286	96	-	76	24	34	649	18.5	0.5	8.2
1996-97	Sr	29	-	-	213	485	43.9%	144	221	65.2%	38	104	36.5%	25	289	-	-	-	18	28	608	21.0	0.9	10.0
Career		64	+35	+1151	455	1028	44.3%	274	414	66.2%	73	209	34.9%	42	575	+96	-	+76	42	62	1257	19.6	0.7	9.0

and

BJ Johnson to LaSalle

Season	Cl	Pos	G	GS	Min	FG	FGA	%	FT	FTA	%	3Pt	3PA	%	Asst	Reb	DReb	OReb	Fls	DQ	TO	ST	BS	Pts	PPG	APG	RPG
2016-17	Jr	G/	29	28	945	168	374	44.9%	109	130	83.8%	64	177	36.2%	28	183	144	39	71	0	68	33	14	509	17.6	1.0	6.3
2017-18	Sr	G/	27	27	950	194	435	44.6%	126	145	86.9%	47	131	35.9%	20	225	168	57	57	2	68	35	19	561	20.8	0.7	8.3
Career			56	55	1895	362	809	44.7%	235	275	85.5%	111	307	36.0%	48	408	312	96	128	2	136	68	33	1070	19.1	0.8	7.3

SBU72 · Jul 1, 2022

pfister1 said:
Keith Hughes to Rutgers

Season Cl Pos G GS Min FG FGA % FT FTA % 3Pt 3PA % Asst Reb Fls DQ TO ST BS Pts PPG APG RPG
1989-90 Jr
35
35
1151
242
543
44.6%
130
193
67.4%
35
105
33.3%
17
286
96
-
76
24
34
649
18.5
0.5
8.2
1996-97 Sr
29
-
-
213
485
43.9%
144
221
65.2%
38
104
36.5%
25
289
-
-
-
18
28
608
21.0
0.9
10.0
Career
64
+35
+1151
455
1028
44.3%
274
414
66.2%
73
209
34.9%
42
575
+96
-
+76
42
62
1257
19.6
0.7
9.0

and

BJ Johnson to LaSalle

Season Cl Pos G GS Min FG FGA % FT FTA % 3Pt 3PA % Asst Reb DReb OReb Fls DQ TO ST BS Pts PPG APG RPG
2016-17 Jr G/
29
28
945
168
374
44.9%
109
130
83.8%
64
177
36.2%
28
183
144
39
71
0
68
33
14
509
17.6
1.0
6.3
2017-18 Sr G/
27
27
950
194
435
44.6%
126
145
86.9%
47
131
35.9%
20
225
168
57
57
2
68
35
19
561
20.8
0.7
8.3
Career
56
55
1895
362
809
44.7%
235
275
85.5%
111
307
36.0%
48
408
312
96
128
2
136
68
33
1070
19.1
0.8
7.3

Nice that someone posts that not all transfers from SU made mistakes.

FRANKIEFAN · Jul 1, 2022

SBU72 said:
Nice that someone posts that not all transfers from SU made mistakes.

If BJ knew that Gbinije was moving to PG and those minutes were opening up at the 3 he stays and has a better career than that at SU.

FRANKIEFAN · Jul 1, 2022

Thompson - Was good as a freshman. Hate to say it but Seton Hall has had much more talented players than us recently and some very good forwards. Got recruited over there when he didn't improve. Wouldn't have happened at SU because the coach was intent on gutting the roster so his kid could be leading scorer. Worked like a charm Buddy has an NBA deal.

Moyer- Great athlete OK basketball player injury robbed him of his best attribute athleticism. Pretty much a no brainer for him to move on.

Carey- Great athlete not great at basketball. He might put it together this year and have a good senior season.

newmexicuse · Jul 5, 2022

Earl Duncan was probably our highest rated recruit who ended up transferring out:

Earl Duncan College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Earl Duncan - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

www.sports-reference.com

He was a PG who was unfortunately trying to compete with Sherm. He went on to have a nice craeer at Rutgers.

Cheriehoop · Jul 8, 2022

FRANKIEFAN said:
Thompson - Was good as a freshman. Hate to say it but Seton Hall has had much more talented players than us recently and some very good forwards. Got recruited over there when he didn't improve. Wouldn't have happened at SU because the coach was intent on gutting the roster so his kid could be leading scorer. Worked like a charm Buddy has an NBA deal.

Moyer- Great athlete OK basketball player injury robbed him of his best attribute athleticism. Pretty much a no brainer for him to move on.

Carey- Great athlete not great at basketball. He might put it together this year and have a good senior season.

Thompson was good offensively, horrible defensively. His mother was his next biggest issue. His college career was a mess. No way did he leave because he got recruited over. He left because his mom was negotiating with Holloway exchanging phone calls all while he was at SU. (241 phone calls between Holloway and his mom in fact) The NCAA sanctioned both Seton Hall and Holloway for tampering. The kid ended up a hot mess even transferring to Detroit-Mercy his senior year and playing 1 minute over just 2 games before leaving. Actually a very sad story.

Taurean Thompson College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Taurean Thompson - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more

www.sports-reference.com

sufandu · Jul 8, 2022

pfister1 said:
Keith Hughes to Rutgers

Season Cl Pos G GS Min FG FGA % FT FTA % 3Pt 3PA % Asst Reb Fls DQ TO ST BS Pts PPG APG RPG
1989-90 Jr
35
35
1151
242
543
44.6%
130
193
67.4%
35
105
33.3%
17
286
96
-
76
24
34
649
18.5
0.5
8.2
1996-97 Sr
29
-
-
213
485
43.9%
144
221
65.2%
38
104
36.5%
25
289
-
-
-
18
28
608
21.0
0.9
10.0
Career
64
+35
+1151
455
1028
44.3%
274
414
66.2%
73
209
34.9%
42
575
+96
-
+76
42
62
1257
19.6
0.7
9.0

and

BJ Johnson to LaSalle

Season Cl Pos G GS Min FG FGA % FT FTA % 3Pt 3PA % Asst Reb DReb OReb Fls DQ TO ST BS Pts PPG APG RPG
2016-17 Jr G/
29
28
945
168
374
44.9%
109
130
83.8%
64
177
36.2%
28
183
144
39
71
0
68
33
14
509
17.6
1.0
6.3
2017-18 Sr G/
27
27
950
194
435
44.6%
126
145
86.9%
47
131
35.9%
20
225
168
57
57
2
68
35
19
561
20.8
0.7
8.3
Career
56
55
1895
362
809
44.7%
235
275
85.5%
111
307
36.0%
48
408
312
96
128
2
136
68
33
1070
19.1
0.8
7.3

Did Hughes really have 7 years between junior and senior years? I don't think I've seen that outside of the movie Necessary Roughness.

pfister1 · Jul 8, 2022

sufandu said:
Did Hughes really have 7 years between junior and senior years? I don't think I've seen that outside of the movie Necessary Roughness.

No he also played at Rutgers in 90-91 something messed up about his stats where I originally found them.

pfister1 · Jul 9, 2022

pfister1 said:
No he also played at Rutgers in 90-91 something messed up about his stats where I originally found them.

In case anyone cared. Here are his 90-91 stats. It was harder to grab these than I expected. I guess one of the negatives of being a Scarlet Knight……not many people paying attention.

Per Game

Rk	Player	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Keith Hughes	29		35.7	7.3	16.7	.439	6.0	13.1	.459	1.3	3.6	.365	5.0	7.6	.652			10.0	0.9	0.6	1.0	2.2	2.6	21.0

Totals

Rk	Player	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Keith Hughes	29		1035	213	485	.439	175	381	.459	38	104	.365	144	221	.652			289	25	18	28	64	74	608

Reflecting on Transfers

l'orange

Scout Team

TAUREAN THOMPSON

MATHEW MOYER

JALEN CAREY

RF2044

Living Legend

OmahaCuse

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pfister1

2023-24 Iggy Winner ACC & OOC Record

SBU72

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FRANKIEFAN

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FRANKIEFAN

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newmexicuse

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Earl Duncan College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Cheriehoop

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Taurean Thompson College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

sufandu

Living Legend

pfister1

2023-24 Iggy Winner ACC & OOC Record

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