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Message: [QUOTE="PoppyHart, post: 398692, member: 515"] The determining factor is where the ball goes out of not, not whether it touches the goalline. From the rulebook: SECTION 6. Touchback When Declared ARTICLE 1. It is a touchback when: a. The ball becomes dead out of bounds behind a goal line, except from an incomplete forward pass, or becomes dead in the possession of a player on, above or behind his own goal line and the attacking team is responsible for the ball being there (Rules 7-2-4-a and b) (A.R. 7-2-4-I, A.R. 8-6-1-I and II, and A.R. 10-2-2-XVI). [/QUOTE]