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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 471643, member: 96"] i'll ask others that were there as to who said what to whom and when. but its semantics and i maintain my point. it wasnt some bot meeting or anything. the decision was made right there at the bowl, unless you want to tell me that after that whole scene, a bot meeting was convened and it was voted upon. i'll go 1 step further. when grob was hired. tgd put togther a slate of candidates to interview. that was grob, lewis, gray and henderson. it followed his model that he felt worked at usc. a defensive background with nfl experience. gray was with buffalo, henderson was with the jets, lewis was with the giants, and while grob was with texas, he came from the nfl. after initial interviews, it came down to grob and gray. cantor and tgd (maybe others) interviewed them (i think in philly) and selected grob. did that selection then go to to the bot to be voted on? [/QUOTE]