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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 471741, member: 96"] While that is all true and I have first hand expereince in organizational development and structure, you have to be sure that people understand the word influence or force. If I want to fire someone, I have to get the OK of my boss (and HR), but not my bosses boss or the VP. But if the VP wanted me to fire someone, you bet I have to fire them. So it works down but not necessarily up. Also, there is a difference between a singular person saying fire someone, and a board voting on it. [/QUOTE]