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Message: [QUOTE="anomander, post: 550700, member: 2766"] I still don't know if we will know for sure if Wagner will count unless it comes down to us having 6 wins, which is something I hope we don't have to worry about. We have to at worst split the first 2 games. Then try to get a road ACC win. NCST will be very beatable. FSU and GT will be very tough. Still we should be a bowl team next year based on our defense alone, and wouldn't be shocked with an 8-4/9-3 showing. [/QUOTE]