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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 1044287, member: 716"] On the first point, Dan's got the insider knowledge about the proposal, so apologies if I'm incorrect. But based on what Dan's said to me and what he's written in this thread, I think the mass transit option (which would be neat, if kind of wasteful) was a future possibility rather than an integral part of the stadium plan. Reading between the lines, the developer would build its profit-generator and then announce that the rail line is economically infeasible and would be delayed or not built at all. We couldn't count on that to get fans to the stadium from Day One. Regarding all the streets and exits you mentioned, they're all part of the network that gets people to games now, but they'd all feed into the same couple chokepoints in getting people and cars up to the top of Skytop - Brighton and Colvin et al. would feed into Skytop Road, Jamesville and Rock Cut and a new 481 exit would feed into the two-lane cut on the south side of Skytop. Everything works somewhat well now because there's a grid; when people are still driving in from all those directions but being funneled into one large lot with two entrances, it's going to be slow. Same thing for the walkers. A small percentage of people walk, door-to-door, to the Dome, but almost everyone walks in some capacity (since there's almost no onsite parking). In the 360 degrees around the Dome, there are dozens of places from which people walk - parking lots or on street spots in every direction, bars, homes. For Skytop, again, everyone is going to be concentrated into one mode. Those who today might walk from cars on East Genesee, Thornden, Euclid, Martin Luther King School (never needing to drive their cars anywhere near the Dome) will lose those dispersed options for a Skytop stadium; some might take busses from satellite lots, some will invariably choose to drive up there. Again, it's an access problem more than a capacity problem - 15,000 or 20,000 parking spots will handle everyone, but getting that many cars into one finite space will take a lot of time. It's all academic; I agree with you that SU's not getting public funds for a Skytop project and I also believe that Syverud's administration will come out in favor of a Dome renovation. [/QUOTE]

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