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Message: [QUOTE="AZcuse77, post: 2068043, member: 6173"] They were bad for sure... it seems to range from awful to mediocre but it's not going to be a team built on winning from D this year. Gillon had at least twice where he was in position but just too short to guard the 3 so he's almost leaving his man permanently open regardless of being in the right spot. We have to outscore people this year... I thought TT has shown some improvement on D and White is ok but not a good defender... for White and Gillon it's more lack of ability than effort... seems like TT is athletic enough to keep improving. [/QUOTE]