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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 2231313, member: 767"] I just can't put Wilkens in the top group. One title, career .536 win%. That's 44 win pace. For instance, Phil has a career 70.4 win%, that's 58 wins. He had one season in his career where he won fewer than 44, which is Lenny's average season. Pop is 69.4 win%, his first season he won 17 games, every season since then he's been well past 44, never below 50. Riley is 63.6 win%, 52 wins per year. He won 15 games in his last year, 42 games once, and 44 once, and was well over 44 every year. I get you can't totally go by wins and losses, but it's really not close at all. [/QUOTE]