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Message: [QUOTE="Brooky03, post: 4599237, member: 8594"] btw, I realized I've been burying the lead. KenPom - you know, the most respected advanced stats guy in the game who some treat like Jesus - ranks defenses with a handy AdjD stat. It's neat. You should all check it out some time. 2015 - 20th best defense 2016 - 18th best defense 2018 - 5th best defense 2019 - 30th best defense 2021 - 77th best defense (top 25% for those wondering. Not great, but well within the range of good) Wow, that zone really sucks. 2017 - 119th 2020 - 116th 2022 - 207th 2023 - 188th The above numbers indicate the zone did not stop working until 2020. We've been going through all of this BS over a 3 year 'trend' that's really 2 years? Jesus Christ. I'm all the way out on any dumpster fire arguments that the zone didn't work. I think I'll just copy and paste this for all future arguments about this. [/QUOTE]