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Was going to make a few posts during the game but with a droid and touchscreen, I couldn't read or see a thing on my phone. If I had tried everything would have looked like a Cali post.
Nice day, great stadium for this type of thing. Wasn't as vanilla as I thought it would be as they did show a few things. Sat with GOSU, Lincolncuse, Lemoynecuse and my son. I know others were there but didn't see them and wanted to meet money but didn't see his post until post game.
In general, it is hard in this type of situation who looked better, offense or defense. Rarely did the 1's go against the 1's. 1 O looked good usually vs 2 D but the 1 D destroyed the 2 O. Some mixing and matching too. Far too many guys missing to get a real handle on things as there were too many walk-ons in the 2 deep that won't stay there (I hope).
Offense
QB - Nassib, Loeb, Kinder and Broyld all played. Hunt is missing a golden opportunity. Didn't seem like Nassib played a lot and he didn't throw a lot but completed what he did. Loeb played the most it appeared and Kinder got a lot of run. Neither Loeb nor Kinder looked good really with the exception of a few plays. If Hunt gets back, he has a real shot at #2. Broyld ran 2 plays from QB and one was a high snap and the other was a zone read run that went no place. This will be Nassib's offense but like I said, they showed less with him it seemed. He completed short passes underneath but the 1 deep one he threw, he missed by 7-8 yards deep. Maybe protecting from injury. Kinder and Loeb each had a couple INT's also.
RB - Smith, Smith, Smith. Definitely MOP by far. Has lost some weight it seems, is a step quicker but still has the strength. Will definitely be #1. Nobody kept stats but he had to be close to 100 yards. Had 1 TD run and always got positive yardage. A very pleasant surprise. PTG got better as the game went on. Had a couple of fumbles early but broke a couple good runs of 20 yards or so later. Will probably be a change of pace type. AAM wasn't there as he is hurt I guess. Clay Cleveland was the #1 FB but Myles Davis played some too. Rooting for that kid. Broyld got a carry late and went for about 7 yards. As soon as he got the ball and went off left tackle, I looked at GO and we both said the same thing. Damien Rhodes. He probably doesn't have the same speed, but his style is that tall, upright, long stride gliding style. I think Broyld could see the field this year. More as a wildcat type thing than as a QB or RB.I think we will be OK at RB with Smith, PTG, AAM and Morris with Broyld a wild card.
WR - A lot of guys missing due to injury. Lemon, West, Forster, Rene. Sales caught everything near him. The guy that I was encouraged by was Hale. Had 3 catches and is that tall gliding WR with good hands we need. Fleming dropped the first pass thrown him but had a couple later on. Kobena nice play where he got open on I think was a crossing pattern, made a nice catch and then got some YAC. With a 100% Lemon and West, I think this group is going to be very good. Lots of depth and options.
TE - Worried some here. We are really going to miss Provo. Wales got banged up early as he took a big hit and didn't come back. The others were kind of nondescript. Max caught one ball. Stevens didn't do much that I saw. We could really use some help here. I might be wrong here, but it "seemed" Marrone was coaching the TE's.
OL - I don't know...maybe Ugh? Definitely have too many guys out here. We had 2 walk-ons with the 2nd O. The first OL was Pugh, Chibane, Macky, Foy and Alexander. Pugh, Chibane and Macky were fine. I think Chibane is going to be better than people thought last year. When we ran left, we seemed to get positive yardage a lot. When we went right, not so much unless the 2nd or 3rd D was in. Foy and Alexander have good size but a ways to go. I wonder if when Trudo and Hickey are back, that they are the right side of the line. The 2nd OL, was not good at all. We really need some depth here. We need to be able to go 3 deep across the board with scholie players. Hopefully when guys get back, this unit looks better.
Defense
Tough to say a lot about defense individually because in these type of scrimmages, you tend to watch the offensive player more. We do have some numbers here. Lots of DB/S types. Had a some INTs, some hard hits and in general there was a lot of whooping it up when a good play was made. Like the height of Eskridge as a center fielder. Needs to add some weight though as he is very thin. Spruill wasn't there so Diatabe was the #1 MLB and calling signals. The 2 new DE's, Goggins and Welsh got a lot of work. Neither played very bad there. Hard to tell against some of the OL we had out there. Really liked how they all ran to the ball. Davis, Diatabe and Vaughn were the 1st LB's. No one player stood out but Shamarko is definitely built the best. Guy has some guns. Again, maybe others will have more to say about the D. We played 4-3 once again and used a lot of Okie. As to the coaches, Shafer stayed on the sideline for the most part barking out instructions and observing while the assts and GA's were on the field or on the sideline with individual groups. But Henderson spent most of his time standing in the end zone kind of taking it all in and watching everything. Seems to be a special asst for the defense besides working with the DB's. Reddish is going to be very very good. Still wish he was at WR...great great hands. I think Reddish and Anderson were the starting DB's.
Specials
Didn't do a lot of specials. No kickoffs or returns. No punt returns and not really any FG's. They did XP's which Krautman kicked his about 40 yards and Licky looked bad on one although it snuck in. They both had the ball moved back 5-10 yards a couple times that were made. Fisher tried 3-4 punts and they were all 35-40 yards, nothing special. Walk-on Dixon did 2 and his first one went 53 yards with little hang time while his 2nd one went about 40 but was end over end and bounced most of the way. Really need some consistency here. Seemed Anselmo was coaching specials more than Marrone.
One thing of interest was the punt protection. Went with the 3 man protection in front of the punter. The 2 outside guys were Chibane and another OL, but the guy in the middle was Loeb. With a receiver on the outside flank of the punt protection, you can see we want the other team to at least think about a direct snap to Loeb and a pass. Whether we do it or not who knows, but the threat will be there. Maybe it slows down the rush a little?
Will post more as I think of things or respond to others posts who were there.
Nice day, great stadium for this type of thing. Wasn't as vanilla as I thought it would be as they did show a few things. Sat with GOSU, Lincolncuse, Lemoynecuse and my son. I know others were there but didn't see them and wanted to meet money but didn't see his post until post game.
In general, it is hard in this type of situation who looked better, offense or defense. Rarely did the 1's go against the 1's. 1 O looked good usually vs 2 D but the 1 D destroyed the 2 O. Some mixing and matching too. Far too many guys missing to get a real handle on things as there were too many walk-ons in the 2 deep that won't stay there (I hope).
Offense
QB - Nassib, Loeb, Kinder and Broyld all played. Hunt is missing a golden opportunity. Didn't seem like Nassib played a lot and he didn't throw a lot but completed what he did. Loeb played the most it appeared and Kinder got a lot of run. Neither Loeb nor Kinder looked good really with the exception of a few plays. If Hunt gets back, he has a real shot at #2. Broyld ran 2 plays from QB and one was a high snap and the other was a zone read run that went no place. This will be Nassib's offense but like I said, they showed less with him it seemed. He completed short passes underneath but the 1 deep one he threw, he missed by 7-8 yards deep. Maybe protecting from injury. Kinder and Loeb each had a couple INT's also.
RB - Smith, Smith, Smith. Definitely MOP by far. Has lost some weight it seems, is a step quicker but still has the strength. Will definitely be #1. Nobody kept stats but he had to be close to 100 yards. Had 1 TD run and always got positive yardage. A very pleasant surprise. PTG got better as the game went on. Had a couple of fumbles early but broke a couple good runs of 20 yards or so later. Will probably be a change of pace type. AAM wasn't there as he is hurt I guess. Clay Cleveland was the #1 FB but Myles Davis played some too. Rooting for that kid. Broyld got a carry late and went for about 7 yards. As soon as he got the ball and went off left tackle, I looked at GO and we both said the same thing. Damien Rhodes. He probably doesn't have the same speed, but his style is that tall, upright, long stride gliding style. I think Broyld could see the field this year. More as a wildcat type thing than as a QB or RB.I think we will be OK at RB with Smith, PTG, AAM and Morris with Broyld a wild card.
WR - A lot of guys missing due to injury. Lemon, West, Forster, Rene. Sales caught everything near him. The guy that I was encouraged by was Hale. Had 3 catches and is that tall gliding WR with good hands we need. Fleming dropped the first pass thrown him but had a couple later on. Kobena nice play where he got open on I think was a crossing pattern, made a nice catch and then got some YAC. With a 100% Lemon and West, I think this group is going to be very good. Lots of depth and options.
TE - Worried some here. We are really going to miss Provo. Wales got banged up early as he took a big hit and didn't come back. The others were kind of nondescript. Max caught one ball. Stevens didn't do much that I saw. We could really use some help here. I might be wrong here, but it "seemed" Marrone was coaching the TE's.
OL - I don't know...maybe Ugh? Definitely have too many guys out here. We had 2 walk-ons with the 2nd O. The first OL was Pugh, Chibane, Macky, Foy and Alexander. Pugh, Chibane and Macky were fine. I think Chibane is going to be better than people thought last year. When we ran left, we seemed to get positive yardage a lot. When we went right, not so much unless the 2nd or 3rd D was in. Foy and Alexander have good size but a ways to go. I wonder if when Trudo and Hickey are back, that they are the right side of the line. The 2nd OL, was not good at all. We really need some depth here. We need to be able to go 3 deep across the board with scholie players. Hopefully when guys get back, this unit looks better.
Defense
Tough to say a lot about defense individually because in these type of scrimmages, you tend to watch the offensive player more. We do have some numbers here. Lots of DB/S types. Had a some INTs, some hard hits and in general there was a lot of whooping it up when a good play was made. Like the height of Eskridge as a center fielder. Needs to add some weight though as he is very thin. Spruill wasn't there so Diatabe was the #1 MLB and calling signals. The 2 new DE's, Goggins and Welsh got a lot of work. Neither played very bad there. Hard to tell against some of the OL we had out there. Really liked how they all ran to the ball. Davis, Diatabe and Vaughn were the 1st LB's. No one player stood out but Shamarko is definitely built the best. Guy has some guns. Again, maybe others will have more to say about the D. We played 4-3 once again and used a lot of Okie. As to the coaches, Shafer stayed on the sideline for the most part barking out instructions and observing while the assts and GA's were on the field or on the sideline with individual groups. But Henderson spent most of his time standing in the end zone kind of taking it all in and watching everything. Seems to be a special asst for the defense besides working with the DB's. Reddish is going to be very very good. Still wish he was at WR...great great hands. I think Reddish and Anderson were the starting DB's.
Specials
Didn't do a lot of specials. No kickoffs or returns. No punt returns and not really any FG's. They did XP's which Krautman kicked his about 40 yards and Licky looked bad on one although it snuck in. They both had the ball moved back 5-10 yards a couple times that were made. Fisher tried 3-4 punts and they were all 35-40 yards, nothing special. Walk-on Dixon did 2 and his first one went 53 yards with little hang time while his 2nd one went about 40 but was end over end and bounced most of the way. Really need some consistency here. Seemed Anselmo was coaching specials more than Marrone.
One thing of interest was the punt protection. Went with the 3 man protection in front of the punter. The 2 outside guys were Chibane and another OL, but the guy in the middle was Loeb. With a receiver on the outside flank of the punt protection, you can see we want the other team to at least think about a direct snap to Loeb and a pass. Whether we do it or not who knows, but the threat will be there. Maybe it slows down the rush a little?
Will post more as I think of things or respond to others posts who were there.
