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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 5755258, member: 237"] I highly recommend you go look at the roster Clemson had this past year and where they came from. Even without the remaining pieces we still must add there is a lot more talent on this roster than they had. They weren’t the only team either. The eyes , portal ranking and name bias see what they want to see. It took the energy and play of one of the most questionable guys on our roster (on paper), William Kyle, to ensure we won as many games as we did last year despite the short comings of a roster full of higher rated transfers. Pair that with one of the guys who still fought and contributed in Nate Kingz. The rest of the portal guys and those highly regarded returnees played way below their prized pedigree and then there was the extremely poor coaching and here we are. [/QUOTE]