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Message: [QUOTE="KingOtis, post: 235560, member: 1599"] Or what? So most of those losses to lesser seeds came before most of his current players were born. I think many would agree that he's had two careers. There's the first half of his career, when he was Dale Brown's long-lost twin. And then there's the second half of his career, which I call the Post-Juli Era, but others might call the Post-Probation Era or the Exclusively-Zone Era. It's pretty obvious that his PASE during the Post-Juli Era has been outstanding. In my opinion, losing to Alabama was the only bad loss. But depending on your interpretation of PASE, you could argue that he wasn't supposed to get beyond the Sweet 16 as a #5 seed (in fact, he wasn't supposed to get beyond the second round). You could extend that argument to include the win over Georgia in '96 because he wasn't supposed to reach the Elite 8 (much less the NC game). As JB said in regards to Alabama's win over Stanford, "That means they're a better team." I'm sure he felt the same way about Georgia after they beat Stanford. And I just realized we can include the win over Auburn as well. But I'll keep it simple. He lost two games he shouldn't have: Alabama and Butler. He gets a pass for the Butler game because we were not a true #1 seed without Onuaku. There's no excuse for the Alabama game, though, especially considering the way the team played. I was pretty disgusted after that one. Zero effort. It doesn't bother me that he doesn't have a win over a greater seed in the Sweet 16. He's proven that he's capable of scoring upset victories in the Elite 8 and beyond. Just taking a #4 or a #3 seed to the Elite 8 or Final Four is impressive, regardless of who you beat to get there. Coach K may have 11 Final Fours under his belt, but 10 of those trips were as a #1 or #2 seed (the other was as a #3). When you consider talent and seeding, Coach K is supposed to get to the Final Four just about every year. JB is supposed to get to the Sweet 16. Unfortunately, the Fab Melo situation does call for another asterisk. With him, a win over Wisconsin would be expected. Without him, it will be a challenge. [/QUOTE]

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