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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 1781242, member: 289"] RUNS AND BASES Runs produced = runs scored + runs batted in +- home runs so you don’t count them twice. Bases produced = total batting bases, (one for a single, two for a double, three for a triple and four for a home run) + walks + steals 1985 National League Runs Produced Tommy Herr STL 199 Dale Murphy ATL 192 Willie McGee STL 186 Dave Parker CIN 179 Ryne Sandberg CHI 170 Keith Hernandez NY 168 Keith Moreland CHI 166 Glenn Wilson PHI 161 Juan Samuel PHI 156 Hubie Brooks MON 154 Bases Produced Dale Murphy ATL 432 Tim Raines MTL 424 Ryne Sandberg CHI 418 Dave Parker CIN 407 Willie McGee STL 398 Mike Schmidt PHI 380 Pedro Guerrero LA 376 Juan Samuel PHI 375 Vince Coleman, STL 373 Tommy Herr STL 359 1985 American League Runs Produced Don Mattingly NY 217 Eddie Murray BAL 204 Cal Ripken BAL 200 Rickey Henderson NY 194 Dave Winfield NY 193 George Brett KC 190 Bill Buckner BOS 183 Julio Franco CLE 181 Wade Boggs BOS 178 Harold Baines CHI 177 Bases Produced Rickey Henderson NY 461 George Brett KC 434 Don Mattingly NY 428 Wade Boggs BOS 410 Kirk Gibson DET 402 Dwight Evans BOS 401 Phil Bradley SEA 396 Eddie Murray BAL 394 Jesse Barfield TOR 377 Cal Ripken BAL 370 1986 National League Runs Produced Von Hayes PHI 186 Mike Schmidt PHI 179 Dave Parker CIN 174 Keith Hernandez NY 164 Gary Carter NY 162 Glenn Davis HOU 161 Kevin McReynolds NY 159 Juan Samuel PHI 152 Tony Gywnn SD 152 Tim Raines MON 144 Bases Produced Tim Raines MON 424 Mike Schmidt PHI 392 Von Hayes PHI 391 Tony Gwynn SD 389 Steve Sax LA 378 Dale Murphy ATL 368 Eric Davis CIN 365 Dave Parker CIN 361 Kevin McReynolds NY 356 Glenn Davis HOU 350 1986 American League Runs Produced Joe Carter CLE 200 Don Mattingly NY 199 Jim Rice BOS 188 Kirby Puckett MIN 184 George Bell TOR 178 Ricky Henderson NY 176 Jesse Barfield TOR 175 Wade Boggs BOS 170 Dave Winfield NY 170 Jose Canseco OAK 169 Bases Produced Rickey Henderson NY 461 Don Mattingly NY 441 Kirby Puckett MIN 419 Jesse Barfield TOR 406 Joe Carter CLE 402 George Bell TOR 389 Wade Boggs BOS 387 Gary Gaetti MIN 375 Jim Rice BOS 365 Cal Ripken BAL 363 1987 National League Runs Produced Tim Wallach MON 186 Juan Samuel, PHI 185 Eric Davis CIN 183 Ozzie Smith STL 179 Andre Dawson CHI 178 Dale Murphy ATL 176 Tim Raines MON 173 Darryl Strawberry NY 173 Willie McGee STL 170 Mike Schmidt PHI 166 Bases Produced Dale Murphy ATL 459 Darryl Strawberry NY 443 Tony Gwynn SD 439 Juan Samuel PHI 424 Tim Raines MON 419 Eric Davis CIN 415 Vince Coleman STL 402 Von Hayes PHI 400 Andre Dawson CHI 396 Howard Johnson NY 394 1987 American League Runs Produced Dwight Evans BOS 198 George Bell TOR 198 Alan Trammell DET 186 Wally Joyner CAL 183 Robin Yount MIL 181 Don Mattingly NY 178 Lloyd Moseby TOR 176 Ruben Sierra TEX 176 Paul Molitor MIL 173 Gary Gaetti MIN 173 Bases Produced Dwight Evans BOS 418 Mark McGwire OAK 416 George Bell TOR 413 Alan Trammell DET 410 Danny Tartabull KC 403 Phil Bradley SEA 403 Robin Yount MIL 399 Lloyd Moseby TOR 389 Brian Downing CAL 387 Wally Joyner CAL 378 1988 National League Runs Produced Will Clark SF 182 Andy Van Slyke PIT 176 Darryl Strawberry NY 163 Bobby Bonilla PIT 163 Andres Galarraga MON 162 Kirk Gibson DET 157 Kevin McReynolds NY 154 Eric Davis CIN 148 Glenn Davis HOU 147 Brett Butler SF 146 Bases Produced Darryl Strawberry NY 410 Will Clark SF 401 Andy Van Slyke PIT 384 Andres Galarraga MON 381 Kirk Gibson LA 366 Brett Butler SF 366 Bobby Bonilla PIT 366 Barry Bonds SF 353 Andre Dawson CHI 347 Kal Daniels CIN 346 1988 American League Runs Produced Kirby Puckett MIN 206 Jose Canseco OAK 202 Dwight Evans BOS 186 Mike Greenwell BOS 183 Wade Boggs BOS 181 Dave Winfield NY 178 Dave Henderson BOS 170 Robin Yount, MIL 170 George Brett KC 169 Ellis Burks BOS 167 Bases Produced Jose Canseco OAK 465 Mike Greenwell BOS 416 Wade Boggs BOS 413 George Brett KC 396 Rickey Henderson NY 396 Paul Molitor Mil 387 Kirby Puckett MIN 387 Fred McGriff TOR 381 Dave Winfield NY 374 Robin Yount MIL 374 1989 National League Runs Produced Will Clark SF 192 Kevin Mitchell SF 178 Howard Johnson NY 169 Pedro Guerrero STL 160 Bobby Bonilla PIT 158 Ryne Sandberg CHI 150 Lonnie Smith ATL 147 Von Hayes PHI 145 Jack Clark SD 144 Terry Pendleton STL 144 Bases Produced Howard Johnson NY 437 Kevin Mitchell SF 435 Will Clark SF 403 Bobby Bonilla PIT 386 Von Hayes PHI 379 Ryne Sandberg CHI 375 Barry Bonds PIT 372 Glenn Davis HOU 359 Lonnie Smith ATL 358 Pedro Guerrero STL 353 1989 American League Runs Produced Ruben Sierra TEX 191 Robin Yount MIL 183 George Bell TOR 174 Don Mattingly NY 169 Mike Greenwell BOS 168 Wade Boggs BOS 164 Dwight Evans BOS 162 Bo Jackson KC 159 Julio Franco TEX 159 Alvin Davis SEA 158 Bases Produced Ricky Henderson OAK 419 Fred McGriff TOR 415 Robin Yount MIL 396 Ruben Sierra TEX 395 Wade Boggs BOS 388 Paul Molitor MIL 361 Don Mattingly NY 355 Joe Carter CLE 355 Nick Esasky BOS 349 Alvin Davis SEA 348 Cumulative Run Production rankings, (10 points for 1st, 9 for 2nd, etc. ) Honus Wagner (1897-1917) 137 Ty Cobb (1905-28) 126 Cap Anson (1871-97) 119 Stan Musial (1941-63) 119 Lou Gehrig (1923-39) 111 Babe Ruth (1914-35) 109 Hank Aaron (1954-76) 105 Willie Mays (1951-73) 100 Sam Crawford (1899-1917) 96 Rogers Hornsby (1915-37) 89 Ted Williams (1939-60) 89 Mel Ott (1926-47) 85 Mickey Mantle (1951-68) 82 Tris Speaker (1907-28) 81 Joe Medwick (1932-48) 79 Mike Schmidt (1972-89) 79 Frank Robinson (1956-76) 78 Joe DiMaggio (1936-51) 77 Nap Lajoie (1896-1916) 77 King Kelly (1878-93) 76 Hugh Duffy (1888-1906) 75 Eddie Collins (1906-30) 74 Dan Brouthers (1879-1904) 73 Jimmie Foxx (1925-45) 72 Sherry Magee (1904-19) 68 Comment: The only change was that Mike Schmidt, whose career is now over, made it to 79 points and 16th overall. I think the increased number of players and teams in the big leagues makes it harder to make the top ten or get to the top of it and accumulate points. Of course in the next decade, there will be an offensive expolosion in baseball but I don’t believe it will change that essential fact. Cumulative Base Production rankings (same system) Ty Cobb (1905-28) 129 Hank Aaron (1954-76) 127 Babe Ruth(1914-35) 125 Stan Musial (1941-63) 121 Lou Gehrig (1923-39) 120 Willie Mays(1951-73) 118 Ted Williams(1939-60) 115 Honus Wagner (1897-1917) 112 Tris Speaker(1907-28) 110 Mel Ott (1926-47) 107 Rogers Hornsby (1915-37) 98 Jimmie Foxx (1925-45) 96 Mickey Mantle(1951-68) 96 Mike Schmidt(1972-89) 94 Cap Anson (1871-97) 91 Billy Hamilton (1888-1901) 89 Eddie Collins (1906-30) 89 Harry Stovey1880-93) 88 Sam Crawford (1899-1917) 86 Dan Brouthers (1879-1904) 83 Ricky Henderson (1979-2003) 81 Ed Delahanty (1888-1903) 79 Frank Robinson (1956-76) 79 Carl Yastremski (1961-83) 76 Jim O’Rourke (1872-1904) 73 Max Carey (1910-29) 73 Harmon Killebrew (1954-75) 73 Comment: Here Mike made it to 94 points and #14 all-time. But Rickey Henderson also vaulted into the top 25 with 81 points, based on his combination of hitting, walking and stealing bases- the greatest lead-off man ever. And he’s going to play another 14 years! [/QUOTE]

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