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Message: [QUOTE="Wrinkle, post: 3289613, member: 7537"] I don't really understand what you're saying. You think MSU and OSU are down. At first glance, their record could suggest that. But then you look at who they've lost to, and just about every loss is to a tournament team. Essentially every game in the Big 10 is against a tournament team. Even elite teams will lose a number of those games. You're saying preseason expectations have inflated everyone's view of the conference, but advanced statistics with no such bias support the strength of the conference. [/QUOTE]