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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 4901913, member: 622"] What he said. Pitt has never had the feel of a rival. Only PSU and WVU were at that level. Miami and VATech were on the way... BC was always just a nearby school. Rutgers was just an annoyance we played against many times before joining the Big East (the original Big East, not the B1G's eastern half). While we can hate on NC State, they do deserve it, but there is not the same level of a good rival like PSU.* *The PSU rivalry was even until the first downfall of SU football. When it heated back up, PSU pansied out of the eastern rivalries to join the B1G when they could not boss the eastern schools around. [/QUOTE]