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Message: [QUOTE="elimunelson, post: 1508690, member: 615"] Did he really leave the Bills in a better place? They went 8-8 last year. I don't count the Patriots laying down in game 17. That was given to them. He left Syracuse in the same shape that P left it in 2004. He's ok not a world builder. I think any owner in the NFL will see him for what he is: a guy who will make you ok not great. If you show me where he becomes a hotshot coordinator like a Pete Carroll, Dan Quinn, etc then i'll eat my words. [/QUOTE]