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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 1476773, member: 668"] I get it, I understand the argument, it's not a new one. The enigma is, in my opinion, is that the university bears the city's name. And, since it's also the only game in town (especially at the level in which it plays) people who live there and in the metro area certainly identify themselves with Syracuse. They want to be part of something good, and, unfortunately, SU football has been anything but that. Being a private school has very little bearing (again, in my opinion) when it comes to attendance for football games where capacity is some [B][I]48k[/I][/B] and change when you take into account the population of Syracuse and vicinity. Winning does, and everything that emotionally comes with it... [/QUOTE]