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[QUOTE="omniorange, post: 436514, member: 636"]
They were down 7, 6, and 8 and the closest the ball was to their goal line was with the Giants at their own 30 with 5 seconds left after the Giants had intercepted last desperation pass.   The other two times the opponents had the ball in Bucs territory.  So the likelihood of getting the turnover, which hasn't happened and scoring 6 is virtually nil in these circumstances.
 
Schiano said he used this tactic at least 4 times in college and 3 times in the pros and it has never resulted yet in his team getting the ball back, although against UNC they did get the fumble but the Heels recovered.  UNC was at the Rutgers 12 yard line and chose to take the knee instead of going for the score.  He claims they were successful in causing a fumble against WVU and Pitt in 2009.  In the WVU game, they were offsides twice with the play and no fumble caused.  And the Pitt play-by-play doesn't give any indication of either a penalty or a fumble happening when they took a knee twice at the end of that game.
 
Also, there is a mixed message in his application of the "play hard" to the end.  When the Bucs are leading, he doesn't have a problem with his offense taking a knee.  If he were true to this principle, shouldn't he have his offense play hard to the end?
 
Anyway, this isn't a man-to-man versus zone type argument that has its proponents on both sides of the argument.
 
If you are the ONLY one doing this, that should tell posters something right there.
 
Oh Lord
 
Cheers,
Neil
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