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Message: [QUOTE="Roger N, post: 1732177, member: 25"] PennDot is a poor example of a public works agency. I was driving on 380 in January on a sunny day with a dusting of snow. Everything was going smoothly. I went over a slight rise and hit sheer ice. I managed to weave through 15-20 wrecked cars. There was every kind of Govt vehicles there. Fire trucks, police cars, wreckers, ambulances but no salt trucks. There was a five mile stretch of road that hadn't been touched. This happens all the time. Don't get me started with those jerks. [/QUOTE]