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Message: [QUOTE="Lou_C, post: 621071, member: 3201"] Well, our performance certainly hasn't helped. That said, you can't count on one or two teams to do it every year. Look at the Pac during USC's probations...Oregon and Stanford at the top of the polls. FSU and Miami can't be the only ACC teams eligible for a top 5 or 10 ranking. That just doesn't work. Clemson looks committed now. I think FSU is back on track. I think Miami will bounce back sooner than people expect. Maybe Louisville can build/sustain something here. Today, the UNC AD said he wants to increase athletic revenue 40%. If that doesn't mean he's going to bail on the ACC, then there is almost no way that committing to a better football program isn't going to be either a driver of that or a result. We simply need more top 10 caliber football teams. That said, I actually think FSU (and Clemson and GT) is more responsible of the field than on the field. They should have been pushing football/money issues sooner and more aggressively. They should have seen these challenges sooner and pushed on them. I don't think they did. Thanksfully, I actually think everyone is on the same page now about what needs to be done. I think the moves of the past 1-2 years show that to be the case. Right on the SEC, no indications they want us. The B1G, I don't know if it would be a mistake, but I would have misgivings even if I supported it. I also now believe the Big 12 is a non-starter, and I actually think the ACC has a better long term upside if it can hold together. So given FSU's options, I am very invested in the ACC improving it's position financially, given who FSU is competing against. Just so you know, I didn't post those "negative" things as smack talk, it's only because if I was having good, ACC-positive conversations here with you guys, eventually someone would show up from WVU-land or somewhere else to "out" me as SEC-leaning, or against adding Syracuse. But I'm not hear to run down the ACC or Syracuse or Pitt. If the ACC Network becomes a reality, and gets carriage in NY and PA as a result, I will have been proven totally wrong about the ACC's last expansion. I've been pretty pessimistic on the prospects of an ACC network for some time, but I'm coming around on it's possibilities. I've been lurking here for some time to pick up on the things you guys hear, especially from arb. Good stuff and encouraging stuff. I think the ACC has some real problems (at least in terms of FSU) compared to the SEC and B1G, but I'm more optimistic about it than I have been in maybe 15 years. I think our heads are in the right place now. It's just a matter of what we can come up with given the bad contract we're married to. But we're supposed to be smart guys, right? We've got to be able to come up with something. [/QUOTE]

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