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Message: [QUOTE="Stern, post: 1959208, member: 527"] Nope. L'ville needs a lot of help to get into the playoff. If Ohio St beats Mich what it does is bring Wisconsin and Penn St into the picture. Because then Penn St wins their division. Ohio St ends the year with 1 loss, no Big 10 title game to slip up in cause they are OUT of that, and OSU has then LOCKED UP a playoff spot. Then the winner of Penn St and Wisconsin in the Big 10 title game will get a playoff spot along side OSU. Throw in Bama as a playoff team as well. 3 of the 4 playoff teams right there. So if Clemson wins out they are in the playoff. If they slip up and lose, then Washington (as long as they win out) are in the playoff at that point. L'ville is still out. IF both Clemson and Washington lose again THEN and ONLY THEN can you bring L'ville into the conversation. [/QUOTE]