Semi OT: Last Chance U Season 3

[NKR1978]

Anyone watch this 3rd season yet?

The coach...I can’t believe any school, even a 6th rate Kansas community college, would employ this guy.

Only likable people in the season are the QB coach and the black teacher who gives the lesson about lynching.

The coaching staff interaction and “organization” makes McFit seem the epitome of professionalism and organization.

Having said that, it’s still fascinating.

 

[crales44]

Love that show. Binge watched the entire season over the weekend. I never thought I would dislike a coach more than Buddy from seasons 1 and 2 but I've had to reconsider.

 

[AAM62]

He can recruit and damn, Malik Henry has some problems.

 

[anomander]

Binge watched it in 2 days. He may have set a record for human being dropping the word. He can obviously recruit, but man he's a Buddy Stephens clone. You also see why Malik Henry still hasn't signed with anyone. That RB is a problem. Interested to see how he does for Arkansas this year. Ironic thing was that Buddy Stephens won the JUCO national title last season.

 

[Whitey23]

Just caught Coach Adkins in episode 7.

 

[RandomGuy]

Ohh dear... I hated the last season, because the coach was such a scumbag, but I know I'll watch it.. Sucks that kids that need role models, and help, have to deal with these kind of people...

 

[JackBauer44]

The QB coach drives me insane

 

[pacusewife]

We just finished it. Some things completely grate my nerves but would anybody watch a series about players that have their crap together and their calm, collected coach?

 

[pacusewife]

The QB coach drives me insane

I think they were getting what he paid for with him.

 

[Marroniac]

The QB coach drives me insane

But are you coachable?

 

[PAcuse]

QB coach was terrible, wanted to scream every time he said "come on baby"
I liked Jason more then Buddy, sure he used the word a lot more then most communities do. He seemed to care that his kids would do well when they transferred and wanted to make sure they got something out of school. Buddy always came across as a scum bag that used the kids to get national championships.

 

[StopCoolio]

Hard to imagine it going worse for Malik Henry. The kid was a 5 star prospect who could have went anywhere like a year ago. Now he can’t even get an offer and alternated between coming off like a brat and a fake tough guy while making every throw off his back foot so he doesn’t take a hit.

There are bad life choices and then there’s that QB coach, living in a crappy dorm, working 80 hours a week for free in Independence, Kansas.

The scene where they go to Arrowhead(for what appeared to be no reason whatsoever) was kinda funny. Every kid thinks they’re going to be playing there in a few years when maybe 1 or 2 have an outside chance.

As always, the show illustrates how many god awful parents there are out there. There’s the center’s Dad who turns to drugs, someone’s Mom is in jail for 4 years while he’s growing up, but then also Malik Henry’s Dad who is gone for the childhood, swoops in when his kid is an elite athlete, forces him to do stuff he has no interest in and appears to have destroyed his son. Lots of ways to mess it up.

 

[PAcuse]

When pacusewife and I where watching the final episode we both said Malik really doesn't want to play anymore. It seems his dad is still forcing him along the football path still.
I just hope the kid gets a degree and I could see him getting into coaching.

 

[CuseCrew08]

When pacusewife and I where watching the final episode we both said Malik really doesn't want to play anymore. It seems his dad is still forcing him along the football path still.
I just hope the kid gets a degree and I could see him getting into coaching.

I have only seen the first few episodes, but Malik seems to have a great football mind. Maybe coaching would be good for him.

 

[orangeinjersey]

I finally finished this over the weekend.

I never played football growing up, i thought Buddy cursed too much. I'm from NYC metro, we curse a lot here, but this guy Jason Brown, holy can that guy curse. I agreed with the teacher that said the coachig style was borderline verbal abuse. One of the students in class said, "all coaches are like that". Is that true?

Also, just like at EMCC, a LOT of these kids, have zero reason to be in college. the NFL needs a minor league/D league.

 

[AAM62]

I finally finished this over the weekend.

I never played football growing up, i thought Buddy cursed too much. I'm from NYC metro, we curse a lot here, but this guy Jason Brown, holy can that guy curse. I agreed with the teacher that said the coachig style was borderline verbal abuse. One of the students in class said, "all coaches are like that". Is that true?

Also, just like at EMCC, a LOT of these kids, have zero reason to be in college. the NFL needs a minor league/D league.

i played football in NYC and my coaches cursed just as much. Its just how the sport is.

 

[RandomGuy]

This coach may have sworn and got after kids way more than Buddy, but I thought he may have actually given a crap about them .. Buddy was a turd on every level.

 

[orangeinjersey]

This coach may have sworn and got after kids way more than Buddy, but I thought he may have actually given a crap about them .. Buddy was a turd on every level.

Agree with you there. I felt Buddy was just out to win championships, but Brown, actually cared about these kids and what they did AFTER they left ICC.

 

[leftytg]

I agree. I hated Buddy Stephens and had absolutely no respect for the guy by the end of Season 2. I started out feeling similarly with Jason Brown, but actually softened by the end. I think Coach Brown's experience growing up in Compton and going up through - and succeeding in - the JuCo ranks gave him more of a personal connection to the players. He identified with them, and his coaching style reflected what he perceived to be the style of coaching that helped him grow up/succeed. I certainly have issues with it and wouldn't let him coach my kids, but I do believe it comes from an honest, albeit somewhat immature and misguided, place.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Watching this show for the last 3 seasons constantly reminds me how little I understand about what it's like to grow up in poverty.

 

[orangeinjersey]

was shocked to read that the QB coach coached for free. Insane. He apparently coached for Chip and Frost at Oregon, how couldnt he spin that into something better than working in Independence MO for free?

 

[RandomGuy]

I agree. I hated Buddy Stephens and had absolutely no respect for the guy by the end of Season 2. I started out feeling similarly with Jason Brown, but actually softened by the end. I think Coach Brown's experience growing up in Compton and going up through - and succeeding in - the JuCo ranks gave him more of a personal connection to the players. He identified with them, and his coaching style reflected what he perceived to be the style of coaching that helped him grow up/succeed. I certainly have issues with it and wouldn't let him coach my kids, but I do believe it comes from an honest, albeit somewhat immature and misguided, place.

100%.
Brown said juco is football jail. In that context, his actions seem to make a little more sense.

Told the team that he's like that because he's fired up, and not one player could match his intensity level .. essentially explaining his actions, and challenging them to raise their Intensity.

Said, "Hate me know, and love me when we get you a scholarship."

Buddy was a constant @$$hat.

I also wonder how much they edit, to push the SOB narrative... He was decent to his players at times, but they only showed some of that towards the end ..(manufactured "reality" tv plot lines, me thinks) They also began focusing on any adult beverage more, to push a drunk SOB line .. it is TV, after all ..

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I also wonder how much they edit, to push the SOB narrative... He was decent to his players at times, but they only showed some of that towards the end ..(manufactured "reality" tv plot lines, me thinks) They also began focusing on any adult beverage more, to push a drunk SOB line .. it is TV, after all ..

In any medium, things are going to be shown out of context. Context is being around Independence CC for four straight months and Jason Brown for the last 20 years. Obviously, this is a glimpse, not the full story.

Editing certainly creates tension and can take things out of context. The scene with the Cadillac and the smoking the cigar in the hot tub can create an persona that may not be real, and yet when the players do impressions of Brown, that seems to be the stuff they talk about.

That said, Greg Whitley's track record is much more of a documentarian than a reality show producer. Bar Rescue this is not.

 

[leftytg]

I also appreciate that Whitley takes the time to dig into the respective pasts of his subjects. There was one episode in particular (can't remember which one exactly off the top of my head), where he weaves together action on the field with vignettes about how the individuals were brought up (Coach Brown in Compton, Gooden, Bruce, Buckmaster with their families). You get a taste (and in all fairness, it is only a taste, but such are the limitations of the medium) of the forces that helped shape their identities and motivations and why they carry themselves the way they do. The show is very human and very deep. It isn't just watching a coach curse and bully and the ups and downs of a football team's season. It's what sets LCU apart from other football docs - there is always an eye on showing the whole person, not just the football side of the player/coach.

 

[PAcuse]

Yikes...Coach Brown resigned

'Last Chance U' coach resigns after Hitler text