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Message: [QUOTE="reedny, post: 2229902, member: 1423"] I think you're sorting it out well. Your point is a valid one -- we've had 6 straight first round draft picks but certainly not 6 great years. I'm just pointing out that the reason for the fluctuation in success is not that talent isn't extremely helpful. It is. But it's not always sufficient without the surrounding cast. You gave a Nova example (not much NBA-level talent, but great year 2 years ago). And i think that proves that it's not [I]impossible[/I] to succeed if you don't have much NBA talent. It's just a lot harder and less likely. Duke's in the mix almost every year because they've had a bunch of NBA players: Parker, Okafor, Winslow, Hood, Ingram are examples. We did beat Duke at the Dome last year. But their NBA guys (Tatum and Kenard) had 42 points. So Talent matters. But the surrounding cast does too. [/QUOTE]