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Message: [QUOTE="Antiprodigy, post: 2039418, member: 582"] I think you are forgetting a few things here. What SU had happen was they were sanctioned. SU lost almost [B]25%[/B] of the total scholarships schools they were allotted for players, per year, for multiple years. That is a [B][U]huge[/U][/B] strain and would be a [U][B]huge[/B][/U] impact on any program. [B][U]It was one of the largest penalties ever given to a program up to that time[/U][/B]. I think people forget that. How truly enormous a penalty the NCAA gave the program. The penalty was designed to hamper the program for many years. And it didn't, at first. You better believe that pissed off the people in the NCAA who don't like JB. But, with such a penalty, for so long, it was inevitable that it would eventually impact the program. SU would have had to recruit like it never has before, like they tried to do, in order for the impact to not be felt. But they didn't succeed. Now most of you blame it on Gmac & on JB. But, it isn't as simple as that. Then you throw in the fact that JB will be retiring after this year or next (I tend to believe he will walk away after this season, because he isn't the sort who will want a going away party) With all that being said, the program had to let some of less developed or less skilled players go. And several players developed over the course of the time they were here (Some of you don't want to give the coaches any credit for the development, so you like to say they were already good enough before they got here) And they went to the NBA. The truth is, the coaches [U][B]DO[/B][/U] develop players. The players [U][B]DO[/B][/U] improve sometimes steadily, sometimes enormously. Quite a few players have parlayed that into lucrative NBA contracts. There will always be misses. Roberson has not developed as we all hoped. DC2 has been derailed by injuries. But, White & Gillon are imports, maybe to far along in their curve to show any major improvement, but they also haven't been with the program very long. Thompson & Battle are also new, but seemingly improving rapidly. And Lydon, though still inconsistent, has also improved enormously. [/QUOTE]

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