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[QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 5742446, member: 2585"]
Ok, let’s do this. We have incompatible ideas floating around the board. Doty seams to be the guy sitting at the center of it.

Idea 1: all D1 athletes are hard workers and grind - that’s how they got there

Idea 2: there are guys who are harder workers than others and continue to improve by grinding out in the gym - they may even put forth more effort, want to win more than other D1 players

You cannot want to move on from Donnie because he’s not maxing out on his talent, doesn’t want to get rebounds or play inside, lazy etc and still subscribe to idea 1.

You cannot dismiss idea 2 because you are adamant that idea 1 is right and that talent is the only metric

From where I sit, you have talent/athleticism + hard work + intangibles that just about are all present in all d1 athletes and pros. Some may have a “10” in talent/athleticism and a “2” in hard work and a “0.6” in intangibles. Some have a 3/7/9 (this is a GMac comp).

All players we talk about should be talked about this way. If Doty is a 3/7/9 … I think you can make the case that we haven’t had players like that in a hot minute.

And of course we want 10/10/10 guys 😂
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