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Message: [QUOTE="Trueblue25, post: 2176816, member: 3410"] Doubt it changes anything but I meant Butler instead of Baylor. However I'm curious why you disagree? Not saying you're wrong but I think Butler/Xavier/Dayton and even Cincy are examples of smaller programs that take in what we'd often deem "lesser" talent, and end up molding sometimes top 20/top 15 teams that make tournament runs. I'd hate to think they have better coaches than our HOF'er. I know they don't have better facilities or fans. Their schedules may arguably be lighter but they consistently put up tough runs in March. I think sometimes the 3/4 stars are scrappier and more coachable. They see college as a chance to develop into a pro instead of a hurdle/stop light. [/QUOTE]