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Message: [QUOTE="orangenauburn, post: 2183415, member: 169"] Time for the ugly truth We have lost our edge in recruiting And it's not Hop though he was a part of it. We have become stale ... The hoops program is where the football program was towards the end of P. There is a negative energy and aura surrounding it and it shows on the recruiting front I am sure Buddy will be Orange and will be a Rautins level player for us. Next year will be crucial. There is a reason JB came out and stated he will be here another 5-6 years. Because EVERYONE is using his age and retirement against us right now . Aslong as we can rebound in 18 and 19, we will be ok. Tucker is Tucker. Does he end up at Duke? Something tells me no. But we as fans need to relax and breathe and realize the reality of the program current health. We are in the precipous of reaching where our football program was nearly 20 years ago. These are dangerous times [/QUOTE]