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Message: [QUOTE="SUFan44, post: 1918811, member: 39"] Agreed. I am super, super glad we have Babers. And I think his ceiling as a head coach is not paralleled by anyone we have had in the position since Coach Mac. That doesn't mean he's going undefeated and winning a national title - but it does mean I think he can eventually have us at a Top 25 level. All that being said, I think Shafer's human touch and personality is absolutely tailor made to be a college football coach. A few adjustments and learning from one's mistakes and he'd do a good job at any number of D1 schools - either as DC or HC. [/QUOTE]