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Message: [QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 709745, member: 204"] I like them. He tells us when he is not pleased with team and tells when he is. He does not teach in the way that Marrone did - I thought that was what Marrone did well - he gave us a bit of an insider view of how coaches think and operate. Shafer does not do that but he does express his feelings about the play and I like that. And based upon some of his comments and some of what I have read he is a tough guy - works the guys hard. [/QUOTE]