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Message: [QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 105363, member: 204"] You are probably right. I tend to give the coaches the benefit of the doubt. I tend to believe that it's the players who win and lose games. But, in answer to your question. Yes, there are less talented coaches out there, I'm just not sure Mike Sherman is one of them. He had pretty good success at Green Bay, is a noted offensive mind and led A&M to the Cotton Bowl last year. There are certainly less talented coaches out there. Rich Kotite here in Philly was a bad head coach. Greg Robinson was a bad head coach. Bill Stewart of WVU turned out to be a mediocre head coach. Bill Callahan, the former Nebraska head coach was a bad college head coach - at least for Nebraska. Robinson's first OL coach - blanking on his name - was a bad college coach. Cam Cameron was a bad head coach at my alma mater - Indiana. Bill Lynch of Indiana was at best a mediocre head coach. There are few truly great coaches. For me there is Bill Belichek right now and in the past only a handful - Lou Holtz, Tom Landry, Dick Vermiel, Bill Parcells, Don Shula, Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown, Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes, and Chuck Noll. Those were guys who could take a given team and make it better almost immediately. I think we often times fail to recognize that there are very few of those kinds of guys. And maybe that's my problem with these changes that we're reading about. These college ADs are looking for that great HC and the fact is that he's probably not out there. What's out there is a group of very good coaches - all of whom can win with good talent. Whenever a guy like a Mike Sherman is fired I think of when the Denver Bronco's fired Shanahan. And the owner, Pat Bowlen said at the time something like "I just hope we can find somebody as good as Mike was" And I thought "Huh? If you don't know that you can find a guy as good as Mike, why fire Mike?" I think that stability - hanging in there with a solid coach who works hard, is good with young athletes and alums, and who stresses education and good citizenship, is the way to succeed in the long run. I would not have fired Sherman or Gill or Nueheisal - I would have done what Va Tech did with Beamer. But, interesting discussion. [/QUOTE]

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