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Message: [QUOTE="ACCBballFan, post: 34341, member: 1278"] No Temple was removed from BE for its fan support. In academics, US News rates Temple #132, while ACC low is FSU (101) and NC State (101). Neither do Houston or Memphis who finished out of top 200, nor ECU (194), USF (181), UCF (177), West VA (160), Louisville (160), Texas Tech (160), Cincy (143), UAB (143), Kansas State(143), Oklahoms St (132), UK (128). South Carolina would not rejoin but at least is close at 111. Several tied at 101: Tennessee, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Kansas, and Dayton who may not even have football. So the list who make the academic grade is fairly small and in many cases geography or lack of football power eliminates them. I won't bother to list any B1G except Penn State or any SEC except Vandy to have one or P12: 17 - Vandy though an academics misfit in SEC would not leave $$ on table fits all other criteria 17 - Rice only desireable for academics, not football, Bball nor geography [B]19 - Notre Dame[/B] wants to remain independent in football, but that may not be viable forever 22 - G-town, terrible football 30 - Richmond but ACC already has 2 schools in Virginia [B]45 - Penn State[/B], content in B1G but might be persuaded if ND opts for ACC 45 - Texas, issues with Texas Loghorn Network and distance 58 - UCONN too available for what they bring in football, have Bball except for ethics part 62 - SMU only desireable for academics, not football, Bball nor geography 68 - Rutgers too available for what they bring in football, no Bball to speak of 75 - Baylor good in football, Bball and Academics but too far 75 - Tulsa - people at OU and Okie St would get a good laugh but that's about it 90 - Missouri good in football, Bball and Academcis but too far 90 - Miami (OH) - at or below average in everything 97 - Iowa State at or below average in everything 97 - TCU good in football, not Bball, distance Nova is listed separately as a regional school, the #1 in East, but not good at all in football. So if you eliminate everybody in central time zone, you are left with [B]Notre Dame[/B] who does not change clocks back, G-town, Richmond where ACC already has two in VA, [B]Penn State[/B], UCONN, and Rutgers, plus Nova. The two obvious football powers in that group are [B]ND and PSU who are not available in short term, maybe never, but no hurry to eliminate that chance slim as it may be[/B]. With one and not the other, take a run at Vandy (17) before UCONN or Rutgers. SEC only has 13 hoping to get to 14 where ACC is, P12 and B1G have 12 and holding, B12 only has 9 and that number could go either way. BE will have 7 not counting Cuse and Pitt after TCU joins football play next season, if it does. [B]ACC has most already, why add 2 more? All that would accomplish is some ACC football schools secede and back to 14 or less with less football strength than before.[/B] That does not apply to Cuse and Pitt who I think are great additions to ACC since they are the best realistically available in short term and set the stage for adding ND or PSU, no time soon but before limit of 16 is reached. B1G would have loved to have added MD from ACC and Pitt from BE as their B1G 13-14 to appease PSU and entice ND for same reasons. After ND and PSU confirm they are not available in ACC football any time soon, the [U]next two nobody else wants without Notre Dame either, UCONN and Rutgers[/U]. So again no rush. Georgetown and Nova have a super long way to go in football, but either, not both, could be short to medium term fillers in Bball only with Notre Dame if that BBall only scenario was more viable which is why I started the thread. [B]Unanimous [B]Concensus [/B]was BBall only in ACC does not appear to be viable[/B], and I now agree it is not [U]unless ND agrees to ACC Ball only until 2015, then ACC Football as well or pay ACC the $20 M exit fee[/U]. Even in that case Nova is on probabtion as it were. If they do not upgrade their football by 2015, they leave without penalty, and ACC goes after UCONN or Rutgers for ACC 16 in football if neither PSU nor Vandy are then ready to make the switch instead. [/QUOTE]

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