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Message: [QUOTE="baggerbob, post: 308591, member: 164"] As bad as what happened at Penn St shutting down the program is not the answer, but I do have an idea that should be followed. The person who allowed this to happen on his watch, is the one to be punished. Joe wanted the all time winning record, Bobby Bowden had to forfeit games for the academic problems at Florida St, and Joe was able to pass him, so take away all games from the record books won by Joe after 2001. That way you have a just punishment for the person, who allowed this to continue, and you send a message to all schools ,that moral integrity comes before wins and losses. [/QUOTE]