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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 2871032, member: 668"] I prefer the mean (8th) position over the median (10th) as it won't label anyone in such [I]"negative"[/I] light by the usual suspects. ;):) However, according to arithmetic rule when it comes to actuarial science, when the data used has a large sample size it's more accurate to throw out an outlier (as in SU's inaugural season for instance) and use the mean and to use the median (which includes the outlier) when the sample size is not so large. Since we only have 5 + seasons to go on, I think that would constitute using the median, which in this case is 10th. Now, this is just according to the arithmetic rule relative to actuarial science, not position or opinion. ;):) [/QUOTE]