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Message: [QUOTE="OttoinGrotto, post: 1083752, member: 297"] I'm a broken record, but I've expected that we can't really consider ourselves to be a "good" football team until we can win by dictating an agenda on offense beyond turtle up and white knuckle out a low scoring game with just enough points on the board for victory. Realistically, 2012 was the only team like that we've seen in... uh. I want to believe we get there this season, and there are TONS of reasons for optimism, but I just don't know. A lot needs to happen - the line needs to be what we think it should be, the young buck talent at running back needs to shine, Hunt needs to take a huge step forward, we need more dynamocity out of the WR position, the speedy offense needs to really be something we commit to and have succeed, McDonald matures as an OC, etc. The stars can align, I'm just not 100% sure they all will, enough for me to think we're a "good" football team. 2015 though... [/QUOTE]