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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 5016269, member: 5685"] Depends on the end goal. How large does the B18 get? For tradition IMO 30 is the magic number. Then you can have divisions of... Old PAC 8 - Washington, Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA Old Big 8 / WAC - Nebraska, Colorado, Kansas, Utah, Arizona State Old Big 10 West - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern Old Big 10 East - Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue Old Eastern Indy - Notre Dame, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland, Miami Old ACC - UVA, UNC, Clemson, GA Tech, FSU Assuming the B18 can get Clemson and FSU over the SEC. If they miss out on one or both that opens up a spot in the Eastern for BC and/or SU, with Maryland and/or Miami moving to the ACC division. I don't think Pitt, UConn, or Duke would be considered. [/QUOTE]