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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 3979070, member: 474"] because of as fumble a missed fg and a bad holding call.. We can argue about this all day.. The Player that can give us the best offense is TD by a mile.. the issue is that mistakes matter too and right it seems our best shot at winning theses games is getting to 20.. Shrader needs to pass better or we need to put him in spots to pass better because the D is not holding the next 8 teams to 20 every week but still if we can keep 4 of them in the 20s we can win because not all 8 teams are solid on D either. can the oline take another step forward will help too.. they have gotten better and we had 50% of a game they dominated a solid team. Can they figure out something that works when teams sell out like Liberty did, pop guys on occasion thru a stacked line. [/QUOTE]