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Message: [QUOTE="Chip, post: 130009, member: 19"] "Under DeLeone, by the end, the offense was not great but was productive. In those last few years it was the defense that was the problem. Remember how bad it was in 2002? And yet all the venom on the board and elsewhere was spewed toward the offense. Never understood it. " Your quote above, not my spin on it. If you're big picturing or combining years even thought you mention one specifically, you should be more clear. Venom was spewed on the defense in 2002. The 2003 team underachieved. 14 points or less, under 200 yards offense, in 4 straight away games. All losses. Resulted in a 2nd straight year without a bowl game. At the time it seemed like Jake just wanted to make it seem like he was doing something, anything, about it. [/QUOTE]