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[QUOTE="Chip, post: 130133, member: 19"]
I think my post proves that you're getting frustrated.  I'm looking at individual years, I'm not using 2003's bad offensive games to make a statement about 2002.  In 2002 people complained about the defense, in 2003 people complained about the offense.  Can't prove who is right or wrong because we don't have the posts.  But I know I had many back and forth with Pasqualoni defenders about how bad the defense was in 2002.  It's the first thing I think about when I think of 2002.   And when I think about 2003 (which was a different season), I think about how good the offense was in the first and last game, and how good it wasn't for so many games in between, in which I gave actual facts to back up.  Those 4 away losses were not "productive" offense.  But 2 of them were bad defense too, so what does it matter.

The one thing I do agree with you on is this thread that anyone who thought 2002 would be better than 2001 didn't pay much attention to 2001.  That DE you mentioned single handledly changed games, and there wasn't another one on the roster.

And yes, when I said Jake said he wanted to look like he was doing something, anything, that was in reference to the song and dance moves at the end of 2003.  It was a joke on the board that P was the OC.  Not sure you remember the posts though.
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