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Message: [QUOTE="All4SU, post: 3648785, member: 381"] Most of us here have been around this block more times than we care to recall. Speaking personally, if my range of fandom here went back a decade, I might feel the same. But I’ve seen 8 coaches come and go. And I feel pretty sure I’m correct when I say, yes, wins and losses are how coaches need to be measured. But at the same time there are other factors that come into play in college sports that don’t always relate to professional sports. When you run a team associated with a school, the image of the program transcends wins and losses to some degree. In the NFL, for example, that’s not always the case. And college programs do not typically succeed when you establish a pattern of running coaches out of town every five years. Sometimes you have to accept that circumstances may have impacted some results, then gauge whether or not the coach is fulfilling his related obligations such as ensuring kids are graduating, are they representing the university well on the whole, and are their reasons to believe success will come in time. Sometimes a little more time can make all the difference. In year 1 of HCDM there was a noticeable positive vibe around the program. There was a renewed excitement. WIth a great win over a ranked team. In year 2 this continued, but Dungey getting hurt was a blow the team couldn’t overcome. But again a great win over a ranked team. Year 3 was an overachieving group! Year 4 was an underachieving group perhaps due to some severe OL injuries. And I dont know how to evaluate year five. Yes it’s true other teams overcame the same issues we were dealt, but other teams did not. 2020!is an outlier IMO that will only be able to be evaluated over time. I like HCDB. I think the team plays hard for him. He’s demonstrated he will make staff changes when he has to. His current recruiting class seems to fill a lot of needs without any kids who look like long shots - regardless of rankings. The penalties are a concern, but they can also be explained to some degree by youth or inexperience. I’m willing to see if there is improvement. I guess the message is be careful what you wish for. Because I’ve seen more instances of dumping a Coach leading to worse results than better results - at least short term. Beyond that I want to see Dino be successful here. [/QUOTE]

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