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Message: [QUOTE="senorpalmer, post: 1232449, member: 234"] That more or less sums it up for me. I'm an optimist most years but I'm sorry to say this kinda feels like 06-08. There are things to like about the frontcourt, both in the present and the potential it has to get better as the season goes on. But the guard play...I can't see it being much better than mediocre this year. Our only real point guard is inexperienced and being asked to do too much this early in his career. And the perimeter shooting is sorely lacking. Joseph has to grow as a player in the coming months (which is possible) and the 3 point shooting has to improve substantially (I am less confident in this); both of these things are a virtual must for this team to be anything resembling a factor come March. Otherwise, the best we can probably hope for is to eek out a tournament bid as like a 10 seed (or worse), and an early exit. [/QUOTE]