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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeMuskyFish, post: 92751, member: 261"] I agree, I didn't mean to make it sound like that one case was the end all be all of the discussion. You are right, we have had kids from the same background figure it out. For all my criticisms of his court game, Scoop has made major strides. Ricky completely changed his work ethic. And now we see Dion making similar advancements in attitude. So the fact you bring up cases from similar backgrounds seems to me like it could actually be taken as a positive for Dion, as there is a history of success in place. Let's not forget that Dion's talent was much greater than the other Philly guys, so seeing even more immaturity wasn't really all that surprising. Despite being the grumpy old white guy from Lyons, I think the Philadelphia kids are an example that Coach does care about these guys and he still can relate to the young blood. [/QUOTE]