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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 155578, member: 837"] Absolutely. Got way more than we expected, which is great. But my point is only that context and time passing colors -- sometimes inaccurately -- our perception of players in general. Z had a great senior season and, I would argue, was even a decent threat to score relatively efficiently by the end of the season. I wouldn't say a bad word about him as a leader and PG. I just mean that he clearly was a bit limited in terms of his ability to score and that he may have had some similar problems to Scoop last season (when the team desperately needed scoring). Is Scoop or Z a better player? I guess there is no definitive answer. I'm merely suggesting that those who felt we were better off without scoop or would at least unquestionably trade him for a JHart or Z or Autry, may be a bit misguided. [/QUOTE]