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Message: [QUOTE="CuseRaised, post: 1968069, member: 3921"] Tossing Moyer under the bus? I think Moyer is a nice kid. That doesn't negate the fact that the staff redshirted him because he is not ready to play on that level. I mentioned Moyer because a lot of you toss around the word loyalty only when it has to do with the players. Moyer has been nothing but loyal to SU and the staff. It's funny how 20 posts later you can't understand that Quade or any other smart kid don't care how they do it. And if it's not obvious by now after my 20 posts here is number 21 to tell you that these kids should do what is best for them when and how they want to do it. And that is because these coaches don't care about how they do recruits, and will recruit over them and force them out when they want to do it and how they want to do it. [/QUOTE]