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Message: [QUOTE="Shrmdougluvr, post: 1144816, member: 396"] I don't disagree with the talent points at all. I think it is obvious that stacking 5 years of top 20 classes is going to yield a superior group of players on the field. I think LI brings up some good points about the blow outs though. There is enough talent to play good teams tough, like NC State did yesterday or BC earlier this season. But the truth is, in 17 games under Shafer and co., the team hasn't played a single game against a decent team where things clicked in all facets of the game. It's probably too simple to say the "Team" hasnt played a good game yet under Shafer, but it certainly hasnt played a great game yet. It would be less demoralizing (to me anyway) if the team actually played well in a loss. It would confirm this is purely a talent issue. [/QUOTE]